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PHANTOM LIMBS, CHRONIC PAIN, AND PTSD

Chapter 10 of Fifteen Minutes to Freedom

Interview with Chris Meaden

Chris Meaden is a NLP Master Practitioner, clinical hypnotherapist and performance coach with clinics in Harley Street London and Tunbridge Wells, UK.

Harry: Chris, how did you discover Havening in the first place?

Chris: I discovered Havening through my mentor and friend, Steve Crabb, back in 2012. Steve works closely with Paul McKenna, who has been a champion for Havening techniques since the beginning. We saw Paul using it at one of his seminars, and I started practicing in 2012 using the techniques and getting good results. Then I attended the first official training in May 2013, when Ron Ruden came over to London.

H: Who are your typical clients?

C: The vast majority of my clients come to me for relief from panic attacks, anxiety and PTSD. I’m also a sports performance coach, and I’ve used Havening in that context with fantastic results. I found that the greatest results achieved using Havening happen at the more extreme ends of trauma, like PTSD. I find it’s incredible how fast we can effect change.

 

H: How has Havening transformed your practice?

 

C: I was already getting great results, but it amplified the results and made them happen in a shorter period of time.

H: And now, you use Havening with the vast majority of your clients?

C: Every client. I’ve used Havening with thousands of clients over the years. It’s groundbreaking, particularly in terms of the speed. And many of my clients have spent a fortune with other modalities, doing CBT, doing EMDR, counselling, spending thousands of pounds without getting the result, and then they come to me and do one or a few two-hour sessions and they’re done after spending years and a huge amount of money to try and fix themselves.

 

H: What are some of the most remarkable things you’ve seen? Any stories you care to share?

 

C: There’s too many! A lady I worked with recently. She was giving birth to her daughter, and they had to rush her in to have an emergency C-section. She actually died for a few seconds, and she had an out-of-body experience. She floated up out of her body. She could see the operating theatre and her husband and the doctors around her. They had to restart her heart, and then she went back into her body.

She developed PTSD from this incident. She would recall this event every single day. As a result, she attempted suicide three times. She spent a fortune on therapies to try and get herself fixed. By the time she came to me, she was a broken woman. She had destroyed her marriage, she had destroyed her relationship with her daughter, and she was ready to give up on life.We worked together twice, for a total of four hours, and her life transformed. In fact, she tells her story in a video on our website.

I find that the videos which I post on the website reassure people that they can make a change. You can see the difference in her, and that she can’t quite comprehend how much has shifted. That was an amazing case, and I saw her only a few months ago, in September. 

I had a guy who came to me for anxiety. He was in his forties, and he’d lost his arm from the top of his shoulder. When he was about 20, he was visiting the Greek Islands. He hired a moped, came around the corner, hit a lorry. Woke up three days later in Athens, realizing his arm had been removed, amputated to save him from bleeding to death. He had a lot of phantom limb pains. It was taken off right at the shoulder, so there’s no limb whatsoever. Imagine it: this guy has come around the corner and gone into this lorry. The last thing that happened was this: he’s grabbing hold of the handlebars as hard as he can to brace for the impact. He couldn’t remember the moment of impact, but his phantom limb, the whole of his hand, his arm, always felt taut, tense, like he was clasping his hands together. So, I got him to recall the event as best he could, and then I Havened him. Afterwards, he said his hand had opened up and all the muscles in his arm (which, of course wasn’t there — he was experiencing the phantom limb) became loose. So, it’s as though he just let go of the tight grip on the handlebars, because the encoding was in the brain, not in the limb. And Havening allowed his brain to release the gripping in the phantom limb. That was really cool.

 

I had another guy, Ryan. When he was first born, he had a heart operation, and he was in and out of the hospital for ten years or so, so he had a bit of a rough start in life. He went on holiday to Mexico and had a real problem with his stomach, and ended up unable to eat. He had a series of four or five operations, which went wrong because of medical blunders. He also had extreme pain and anger. The only thing that helped was standing in the shower with scorching hot water just on his chest to take away the pain. He would literally do this for an hour or two at a time. And he said he either did that, or he had to smoke some weed to ease the pain. Those were the only two things which could actually allow the pain to go away.

 

So, as you might imagine, this guy was really, really angry with how he was treated by the medical community. He spent a whole year in constant pain, and they kept on suggesting that it was all in his head, that there wasn’t really

anything wrong with him. And every time he traveled overseas, this pain fired off again, since the first event happened overseas in Mexico. His amygdala recognized every time he flew away overseas, the pain would return, and he couldn’t function. He would end up just drinking milkshakes at McDonald’s.

I used Havening, got him to recall the events, used a lot of Transpirational Havening and completely removed the pain and the anger. This guy no longer has any pain at all in his chest. All the anger and rage which was inside him is gone, and he’s now living a normal life. He also had spent a fortune on different techniques. He’s on a video on the website, as well.

 

I think with Havening, it’s about having an open mind, because we’re still only really discovering; we’re just at the tip of what Havening can do.  

 

H: Yes. Many people are skeptical when they first hear about Havening, because it sounds too good to be true. Were you skeptical at first, and if so, what changed your mind?

 

C: I suppose I’ve always been quite open to different techniques anyway, but certainly, you know, there was a certain degree of scepticism when I attended the first training. But I saw tangible results achieved so quickly, often in minutes.

I think one of the things to address with Havening is that, whilst we can remove encoded trauma, another important part is the coaching. You are often changing the identity of a person by removing an extreme trauma, so they need to be coached.

Although the Havening element is fantastic for removing the initial encoding, I think you need to have good skills and techniques to coach the person, because you are facilitating a huge shift, and you’ve got to make sure that when you clear that trauma, that they can move forward in their lives. Often, it’s scary for them when the trauma is removed, because suddenly they’re no longer in that familiar space. It’s a new feeling, and often they respond with more fear. So skilful coaching is needed with Havening.

 

H: Thank you. Speaking of the kind of skills you need to successfully use Havening, I’m curious to learn your thoughts on this issue. You can look at a YouTube video and you learn the basic steps to Havening. Why is it important that somebody actually get trained in Havening who’s interested in using it? Why is important for somebody to train?

 

C: Yes there are quite a few videos. Also, Ron’s got two great books out there The Craving Brain and When The Past Is Always Present. So, there’s a level of detail in those books — both great reads. But books and videos are not enough.

It’s the understanding of how the brain encodes trauma, what happens at a neurochemical level that really impacts your level of skill and competency. Whilst you can learn the basics of Havening touch by looking at videos, it doesn’t give you insight as to exactly how to depotentiate trauma. I see hundreds of clients every year for PTSD, anxiety, and panic attacks, and anyone who thinks that you can just pick it up and use it with these kinds of clients is misinformed.

There can be extreme reactions, and it’s really important to understand what you’re doing. And the process of training and certification is about really making sure that the end user can feel reassured that the person working with them is competent.

 

H: What excites you the most about the possibilities of Havening?

 

C: I think to be able to help people heal in this way is amazing. And we’re using something as simple as human touch. You know, it’s the most natural process that we can effect change. I just think it’s just amazing that Ron has looked at all the various studies and concluded that this is what we can do. And I think as it evolves, we’re going to help heal so many people in the world.

H: What advice would you give somebody who’s looking into the possibility of adding Havening to their toolkit? Maybe they’re a coach, maybe they’re a therapist or a counselor. What would you say to them?

C: I’d say go ahead. It’s a no-brainer. The other techniques, they all have their plus points, but adding Havening amplifies the results in so many positive ways. The small charge which is being made for the training is worth every cent, it really is. You will get that money back so quickly. And it’s not only about using this technique to apply to other people. It’s the impact it has on you as a person as well. Every practitioner who I’ve worked with has realized, wow, I was carrying things around I never realized. Even though these practitioners were well-trained in other modalities, they still found that Havening helped them let go of a whole load of things. So, there’s a real personal benefit to learning Havening, as well as applying it in your practice.

 

H: Thank you so much.

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