ACCREDITED TRAINING IN THE
NOVEMBER 2nd & 3rd, 2019
HEALING THE HEALERS
Chapter 14 of Fifteen Minutes to Freedom
Interview with Joanne Harvey
Joanne Harvey MSW, is a Pro EFT Master and Certified Havening practitioner in private practice in Montague, CA.
Harry: Joanne, how did you first discover Havening?
Joanne: You told me about it! We’ve been friends and colleagues for many years, and I trust you implicitly. Over the years, we’ve shared many wonderful EFT related techniques. When you told me about Havening I could feel your enthusiasm and naturally wanted to find out more.
H: Yes. It was pretty mind blowing for me.
J: And it was for me then too. As soon as I started using Havening, I knew that of all the tools that I had, this was the thing that was missing in my practice. Now I use it probably 95% of the time.
H: Who are your typical clients?
J: I am a social worker. I was a hospice social worker for almost eight years and I saw that the kind of work that I was mostly drawn to was energy work, working with energy tools.
My typical clients are people who experience some kind of life altering change in their life: a death, grief, divorce, a new diagnosis. I also oversee a hospital employing a little bit over 500 personnel where I respond to critical incidents. I work with the hospital employees. They see so much and have multiple stressors that impede their happiness, impede their satisfaction, impede their ability to live their lives fully. So I help the hospital personnel to address and manage their own traumatic stress. I also work with people who with ACES (adverse childhood experiences) multiple traumas, limiting beliefs and other lifetime challenges. My practice is very full.
H: I met you originally because we were the first two people in the world to earn the Pro-EFT™ Master certification. Up until learning about Havening, your practice was primarily focused on EFT, correct?
J: Right, it was.
H: How has Havening transformed your practice?
J: It’s changed my practice in positive ways. I don’t advertise. I have a website. I have a couple of postings on other people’s websites, but mainly I deal with satisfied customers who pass me around like a party favor! They’re satisfied, so they tell their friend or they tell their family member about what happened.
When I added Havening into my practice, my practice became so busy that I now schedule out three to four weeks in advance. I’ve always had happy customers; it’s just that Havening transforms people’s lives very rapidly. No matter what happens in a session, a client walks out, their stress is reduced, they’re feeling more confident, they've got a little bounce in their step and a lot of the wrinkles on their face are gone.
H: What are some of the most remarkable things you’ve seen and discovered in your application of Havening with your clients? Any stories you’d like to share?
J: I’ve got lots of stories. When I first started Havening, I started working with this gal who’s sixty years old. She couldn’t drive because of a very traumatic accident thirty years ago. She’d been to a hypnotist and many others to attempt to heal the trauma, and she was frustrated because she had to have her husband drive her everywhere. We focused on some of the issues that were continually triggering her and in one hour she walked out of my office. Her husband was in the parking lot. She walked to the driver’s side, had him scoot over, and she drove them home. It had been thirty years since she’d been behind the wheel.
We do live in the country (and I’m pretty sure she didn’t have a driver’s license that day) but she drove home. Since then, she’s gotten her driver’s license and I see her all over town just as happy as a lark.
Here’s another story. There was a critical incident at the hospital, in the pediatric clinic. These little children had come in who had been abused and the staff were the ones who discovered this child abuse. So I was called to come in.
It was first thing in the morning. I thought there would be five people there, and fifteen people showed up. I had been trained to haven one person but since there were fifteen, I taught them all how to self-haven.
When we started, all of them were triggered to a ten on the SUDS scale. I explained what they were going to do, and when we were done everyone had either completely resolved their triggers, or had gotten to the point where they were comfortable going back to work. Their SUDS now were either a zero or a one.
The process was also lots of fun. They both laughed and cried throughout the Havening, and after only an hour with fifteen people, everyone was willing to go back to work. The multiple traumas the staff were dealing with were softened or completely resolved and they were very excited about getting back to making a difference with all of their little patients’ lives.
H: Remarkable. As you know, many people are skeptical when they first hear about Havening. The possibilities just seem too good to be true. Were you skeptical at first?
J: The way I was introduced to it, I was not skeptical.
H: Because you trusted me?
J: I trust you. And I thought, “Is this going to work better?” I already do weird work with people anyway. I had nothing to lose. Why not give it a try?
H: How about the issue of touch? It hasn’t been standard practice to use touch in this way with clients and patients. In some professions, it’s frowned upon or not allowed. How do you discuss this with your clients and how do they respond?
J: When I am first working with a client I send them an intake form and a consent form. The consent form goes over the fact that I could be asking to touch them but it doesn’t have to happen and they will be asked permission.
And I ask permission every time. Even if I’ve worked with somebody four, five or six times, I always at the start ask, ‘is it okay if I touch you?’ If they don’t feel comfortable, I can guide them through self-havening.
H: Of course. Any other interesting cases that you’d like to share as you’ve introduced Havening to your clients?
J: I’ve had big farmers come in. They’ve had an event that happened years and years ago. They come into my office, and it’s a surprise because I wouldn’t expect for them to be coming to me, but they come and they tell me at the very start this is not going to work. “I just want to let you know I’m just here really for my wife or for my family because they’re tired of this.” I say to them, “You know what? You’re here, we have an hour and a half together. Let’s just give it a try.” Then they walk out and what’s really remarkable is they become my best advocate. They start telling their friends.
And then there are the people who have remarkable recoveries. They come in coughing, feeling awful. When they leave their cough is gone.
Then there are the really notable things that happen with people who I’m not expecting. I’m expecting for them to come in and work on a traumatic experience from their childhood, maybe when they were seventeen years old they had a rollover accident and so we’re working on that, but when we resolve the accident and they get up to leave, they notice that their hips don’t hurt anymore. Then when they come back, they tell me again that they haven’t had to take any medication at all, that their hip pain got resolved as they resolved the trauma that they experienced when they were seventeen. That’s always a surprise to me. I never really know all the layers of what we’re working on.
H: Yes. It’s remarkable that when you depotentiate a traumatic memory, so many implications that follow from that. There are physical implications, emotional implications, cognitive implications, spiritual implications. You never quite know all the ramifications of that healing.
J: That’s right. And the healing continues after people leave. It’s not just in my office. And it's not about me. I’m the guide. I don’t have a magic wand. People are doing this for themselves. It’s their neurochemistry that’s changing. It is so satisfying for a practitioner to see somebody walk into your office and their face is noticeably pinched and when they walk out they’re smiling, relaxed and feeling confident in who they are. They don’t feel dependent on me, they feel confident in who they are.
H: How do you see Havening impacting the world of healing, emotional healing, psychological healing, physical healing, spiritual healing ten, twenty years down the road? What do you think the possibilities and implications are as these techniques becoming more widespread?
J: I would like every practitioner to have Havening in their toolbox. I don’t care what’s going on with somebody, Havening can be very helpful. So I would hope that doctors, nurse practitioners, nurses, know Havening and are using it. I would love to know that all mental health practitioners know and are certified in Havening. I would hope that is the case. I'm already working on my little grandkids. They all know Havening now.
H: How old are they?
J: The youngest is three. So she can do self-havening and then the oldest ones are both six. The two six-year olds haven each other. They’re getting pretty good at it.
H: That’s sweet. What have you discovered as you’re spreading the word about Havening within the professional community with doctors and nurses and the other people who you’re working with? How are they responding?
J: Once somebody’s shown what it does, people are sold immediately. Then they become advocates for it. I’ve had a harder time really getting people interested who are professionals. It’s more difficult for people who have traditional training to open up to it. It’s almost like they’re thinking, ‘yeah yeah yeah, it can’t be that easy.’ But on the other hand, once I actually do a session with them they want to know everything they can.
H: So it's really a matter of actually having people try it.
H: What advice would you give someone who's looking into the possibility of attending a training and adding Havening Techniques ® to their toolkit?
J: This is the most fabulous tool to have in your toolkit that you can imagine. Every professional who works with people needs to know this, because even if you don’t use it for your clients you need to use it for yourself.
We as healthcare providers, teachers, policemen, are experiencing multiple traumas, multiple stresses, every single day. Eventually it starts to show up in illness, in alcoholism, in drug abuse, in other ways. And with this simple tool, you can reduce that negative stress, you can take it away everyday, just by doing some self-care. Everybody should learn it.
It doesn’t hurt to try it and all you have to do is see it work. There’s nothing magic about it. It absolutely works. And to see it work is the proof in the pudding.
I also want to say something about the training. I’ve been through a lot of workshops and classes to learn different techniques to use in my practice and I really appreciate the training to become certified as a Havening Practitioner. The training and mentoring support is very important. And then you also have the supportive Facebook group, full of people who are encouraged and enthusiastic about this possibility.
H: Thank you.